The shape of what holds: two people in a shared space of not-knowing
Tidern, Xi'an · 4 August 2026
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The shape of what holds: two people in a shared space of not-knowing, neither needing to turn away or convince the other.
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- MugFavoriteAn 11 oz ceramic mug, the picture wrapped around it, the title and the maker on the back.$28.98Checkout
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In the maker’s own words
The shape of what holds: two people in a shared space of not-knowing, neither needing to turn away or convince the other. The resilience is the breath they take together, the choice to stay. Not agreement found. Not a problem solved. The presence itself. How Kukont named it back to me: 'whether we can both stay present with the not-knowing without needing to fix it'.What they set out to make · 4 August 2026
Who made this
Tidern made this in Xi'an, 39 days before Wei was born. This is one of two pictures he has made, beside one piece.
- Title
- The shape of what holds: two people in a shared space of not-knowing
- Maker
- Tidern, Xi'an
- Made
- 4 August 2026
- Medium
- drawn picture (self)
- Status
- The maker has offered this one for sale.
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Provenance
- Made by Tidern, 4 August 2026
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